Beating someone up in training is not encouraged, but there was never any sort of moral guidance that would make you think twice about using your skills in public. In my experience of Brazilian jiu-jitsu and MMA the 'moral' behaviour was less enforced, with more emphasis being on transmission of the skills to fight. I'd have thought Olympic and Greco-Roman wrestling (and probably Lancashire catch also) have similarly enforced rules. Most judo clubs I've trained at, for example, had rigorous rules that were aimed at preventing bullying and misuse of strength, and bashing someone weaker than you was very much frowned upon. Judo was developed as a way of toning down the more dangerous aspects of ju-jitsu whilst preserving a fighting spirit and Jigoro Kano meant it to improve the mettle of the Japanese youth. On the other hand, that I think that the pure Japanese martial arts are much more appropriate to teach to children because of the moral training that has been deliberately incorporated into their syllabuses. However, I would endorse kids learning grappling and striking martial arts from a young age. I wouldn't take a kid into that environment. A lot of the people who showed up had no interest in martial arts but liked the 'tough' idea of no-holds barred fighting (as it was called back then). I was very involved in MMA when I was younger and even as a fighter and ring man I didn't enjoy the atmosphere of most of the venues, which was generally very drunken and rough (there were often fights in the crowd). It shouldn't be held in the same venue as adult MMA. I disagree with the arena for this kids' tournament. The broader story about these boys and what environment they grow up in and what effect their involvement in cage fighting has on them isn't shown and hence none of us really know. They obviously train at a club where they learn to 'fight' within rules with discipline just like any other fighting sport.Īll the media has got is a short video that they have then constructed a story around to create outrage and prejudice. There was an interview with the parents of one of the boys and they came across quite well and I suspect the boy has a much better home life and upbringing than many kids. I am sure that to the kids the match was no different to the judo matches I used to compete in and that the setting and 'atmosphere' didn't register at all. The match was obviously fought within rules that made it certainly no more 'brutal' than other martial arts and was closely refereed. They weren't hanging around knocking back pints themselves. The kids were brought in for the match and then taken out again. I don't think it was necessarily harmful. > But if you ignore the hyperbole and stereotyping do you think it was an appropriate atmosphere for young kids to have this match/fight in?
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I'm sure when we were kids watching rocky and the karate kid we wanted to be in the ring and these kids got the chance, they wanted to do it, there parents gave permission.Ĭall it an oriental name and its gets commended, put it on late night TV and its an outrage. It was a mistake with the environment but these events happen throughout the country every week. Look at the number of adults injured in their first fighting competition.
Prevent kids from any form of competition and then they hit the magic number and get serious injuries as they havent had any experience in it.
Look up ippon seoi nage or tomoe nage and its obvious that they have the potential to cause more harm that a bit of ground wrestling. This isnt kids going out to hurt each other, its a technical situation where forcing a controlled submission or immobilising the opponant is the aim.īumps and bruises are expected and kids generally shrug them off or have a mum hug in many sports. These are watered down rules to prevent injury just like in all martial arts and rugby. Could have looked at the amateur boxing nights and copied them but pushed it a few years too young for most to feel comfortable. You can see the coaches thoughts, give them the chance to show off and have some fun and act like their idols do, someone else should have stepped in and explained the negatives but you dont know the peronality of the coach. John Ambulance and it would be reported as a great thing for kids to do. The mistake was the location, saturday afternoon in a sports centre with parents, bottles of pop, sandwiches and the smelly woman from the St. A cage makes it look brutal but is much less likely to hurt that a 4 foot fall onto concrete or into a wall. In reply to rallymania: completely agree with your points and i too must have a low moral ethic.
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